[Mig]

I thought i'd make a thread about the various samples and instruments used in jungle old and new. If anyone knows anything about the samples and their history, do post it here. Here are a few have been used many times in jungle music:

Breaks:

Amen (http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Amen_break)
Funky Drummer (http://en.wikipedia....i/Funky_Drummer)
Ya Bad Sista - when sped up to 175 bpm it sounds a little like someone saying "dana."

Bass:

Dred Bass - the bass line from that track by Dead Dred has been re-used quite a few times
Reese bassline - from the track Just Want Another Chance by Reece (http://www.discogs.com/release/18335)

Vocal:

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Other:

Those gun shot and laser gun samples that are always used, i'd really like to know where they originated from.

[Commie Dread]

cant help alot, but on breaks this page cant be missing: http://www.junglebreaks.co.uk/

[X Nation]

reese bassline was most definitle NOT first sampled by trace for the mutant remix. A famous example of it's use in jungle is Terrorist by Renegade (1993) although I'm sure it was used before this.

Also the "ya bad sista" break you are referring to is called "think" from the James Brown produced tune by Lynn Collins.



Making a thread like this as a history to educate people is only worthwhile if the information in it is correct. Too many people spout off about how they know things, because they were misinformed by something they read on the internet and took as fact, it pisses me off! No offence meant to thread starter, it's a good idea but if done wrong is potentially just a load of misinformation.

[TetraHydroCannabinol]

well lets correct the info and give your part for those who dont know.
that way we can have a constructive thread that explains the essence of jungle.
this thread has great potential!

[X Nation]

Indeed.

[Mig]

reese bassline was most definitle NOT first sampled by trace for the mutant remix. A famous example of it's use in jungle is Terrorist by Renegade (1993) although I'm sure it was used before this.

Also the "ya bad sista" break you are referring to is called "think" from the James Brown produced tune by Lynn Collins.



Making a thread like this as a history to educate people is only worthwhile if the information in it is correct. Too many people spout off about how they know things, because they were misinformed by something they read on the internet and took as fact, it pisses me off! No offence meant to thread starter, it's a good idea but if done wrong is potentially just a load of misinformation.

Well I did say in the beginning that I wanted people to contribute. I don't know much about the b-lines and sound FX, that's why I started this thread. I just got that from Wikipedia and misquoted, I apologise.

Are there any other famous basslines?

[StealthBert]

Dred Bass - the bass line from that track by Dead Dred has been re-used quite a few times

Again no it isn't.

I've never heard of a producer sampling something like a bass from another producers work. If they were found out they would probably get into some shit.

For some reason thats just not how things work.

I have some notes I took from a producer called Davide Carbone who says theres 5 fundamental bass types in jungle / d&b (credit where its due).

1. Sub
Just a sine wave or square wave at low frequency

2. 808 bass.
Made from a pitched 808 kick drum with the high frequency's filtered out.

3. Warp Bass
This is the Dred Bass you speak of. It is essentially a sine or square wave with the a low pass or high pass filter moving up or down. Traditionally a 808 kick has been used by a lot of producers as the instead of a sine wave.

4. Reece
We've already been into this.

5. Noisia
The modern d&b bass sound. Its essentially made by layering loads a low bass, a mid synth and often a high sound usually with a different lfo on each. Or basically you can do whatever you want on each level of the sound.
It is then re-sampled so it sounds like a cohesive block.

Some other ones I can think of not really used in jungle are

Acid Bass
Made using a tb-303. Not really used for a while because it was too retro but its coming back-in (or maybe already has).

Fuzz Bass
Sort of like the noisia but with more bass. Used in house a lot. Not really used in jungle because it interferes with the drums too much.

I can't be arsed to look for examples of the sounds at the minute but if you're interested look it up on google or something. Especially a 808 kick drum and tb-303 if you haven't heard one.

[Mr.Sensi]

Again no it isn't.

I've never heard of a producer sampling something like a bass from another producers work. If they were found out they would probably get into some shit.

I think he meant a sample of the bass was lifted. Not the bass line.

[amadeus]

thank for you linking us to wikipedia articles. i would have never thought of looking there for answers.

[Mig]

I guess this thread would have had a better reception if I had not tried to get the ball rolling
And yes, I know lots about Roland and the 303, 707, 808 & 909