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#1 User is offline   Powerphail Icon

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Post icon  Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:12 PM

Easy junglists! After years of having Reason installed on my computer but not properly making anything, I've finally decided to start producing, and since I'm into jungle in a very big way, I've decided to concentrate on making that.

Anyway, before trying anything proper, I'm going to concentrate on getting the rudiments (the bass and beats) in check. Programming a decent beat is pretty difficult and after trying my hand at it, I've gained a renewed respect for artists such as Remarc and Soundmurderer and their super duper technical permutations of the amen. I'd really appreciate it if you guys had a look at my (admittedly meagre) efforts and give some general advice about what would be some useful directions for a nuub such as myself to go in, links to tutorials, anything really.

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Thanks :)
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:31 AM

View PostPowerphail, on 09 February 2010 - 12:12 AM, said:

Easy junglists! After years of having Reason installed on my computer but not properly making anything, I've finally decided to start producing, and since I'm into jungle in a very big way, I've decided to concentrate on making that.

Anyway, before trying anything proper, I'm going to concentrate on getting the rudiments (the bass and beats) in check. Programming a decent beat is pretty difficult and after trying my hand at it, I've gained a renewed respect for artists such as Remarc and Soundmurderer and their super duper technical permutations of the amen. I'd really appreciate it if you guys had a look at my (admittedly meagre) efforts and give some general advice about what would be some useful directions for a nuub such as myself to go in, links to tutorials, anything really.

http://soundcloud.com/percussive-p

Thanks :)


welcome mate!

ok listend to your attempts and there are some good approaches in my opinion.

I personal would turn down the bass a bit, and use it as subbass and add some whopple like bass over it.
(where did you shape your basslines, subtractor?)
Further the reverb on the drums is a bit to much sometimes, but the drumpattern sounds quiet good, maybe a bit more punch on the kicks.

cheers
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:23 AM

Sounding very promising for a beginner in terms of rhythm and chopping but the sounds you're using are letting you down.

First rule of production is put in good sounds and you'll come out with a good sounding tracks.

I would try using samples other than Reason factory samples. Get ReCycle and make your own rex loops ect. Load bass samples into the nx-xt ot the n1-19
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:55 PM

Cheers for the feedback!

Yeah, I made the bass in subtractor, I didn't really want to do anything too adventurous bass-wise, so it's a bit plain -- next time I'll try and get a bit more technical. And agreed 100% about the beats and the reverb. I've downloaded some fresh rex loops so I'll have to see what I can do with them, also thinking about experimenting with time shifts/pitch-bends and stuff.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:54 PM

i started making tunes with reason and always found it very hard to get a good clean sound.
lot's of people are able to do it so i am not bashing it,
but imo i have found that abelton or acid pro have a much better selection of good samples which are not to hard to find
also i know most people don't like to pay for samples but there are some pretty awesome sample packs out there
they are not to much money normally check out loopmasters
plus vst's make for more different kinds of instruments
also you can go on youtube and find a video on how to make almost any sound you want
i found abelton very easy to settle into after using reason for some years
and if that is your first tune then your on the right track for sure man
some really decent sample pack to find would be the
danny byrd hospital records (it has everything you need to make a whole dnb tune, tells you what key everything is in and it's pre-beat matched as well) very good for beginners
also these:
kj sawka
BHK rough connections
and the vengence ones
these are all really high quality
Big Shovel Sound Cru
Konkrete Jungle Ottawa
Ashes2Ashes


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Posted 11 February 2010 - 01:33 AM

havent used reason since version one so i can't say much on specifics, but just messing about with breaks and simple tones is a good way to start, and yours sound like a fine start.
keep at it, check hattrixx's breaks tutorial, keep chopping, look at songs you like for structure and figure out what notes work together for the sound you want (keys scales) then do a bit of reading on sound design.
have fun, see you again in a couple of years :)
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